Euthyphro - Defining Philosophical Terms

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they're standing on the porch; court square - waiting. Euthyphro prosecuting dad for murdering some servant Socrates is being prosecuted by Mcletus by "corrupting the youth," which is holding up false gods and by contradicting the truth of the true gods (impious actions). Socrates is manipulative. Euthyphro wants to show off his knowledge, especially to Socrates. Socrates is wiser than Euthyphro because Socrates is humble to say that he knows that he doesn't know everything a…

Socrates' prosecution

He has been called to court on charges of impiety by a young man names Meletus. The reason for his indictment of impiety is the act of "corrupting the young" by inventing new gods and not believing in the old ones; impious.

Euthyphro's prosecution

to prosecute his own father (filling lawsuit) for having unintentionally killing a murderous ma; no precedent in the Gods' actions.

1st definition of piety

persecuting religious offenders or unjust people who have committed murder or violated something sacred.

Pious actions are pleasing gods, unpious is not pleasing them because; according to Ethyphro, the stories of the Gods are true.

Socrates's 1st objection

-There are hatred among some of the gods, making some good and other gods evil.
- the gods often do not agree with one another; Therefore, you cannot be so certain that one god's action is correct considering not all gods agree with that god's action.
-an action can be both pious and impious; but it seems that whatever is pleasing to the gods is also displeasing to them.
- something cannot be both pious and impious because they are complete opposites. In the case of prosecuting his father, it will be pleasing to Zeus but displeasing to Cronos. Unsatisfied again because he did not ask what is both pleasing and displeasing to the gods but simply what was piety.

Euthyphro's 1st refutation

- there should not be an opinion with the gods: they all hold that if one man kills another unjustly, he should be punished for that action.
- even the gods have a hard time figuring out what is justice and what is injustice; Therefore, if the gods disagree about what is just and what is unjust, how can Euthyphro determine that the murderous labourer died in his imprisonment before the master had time to learn from a religious authorities about what to do, died unjustly? Or whether or not that prosecuting your father for the murder of such a man is unjust?

2nd definition of piety

piety is what the gods love and impiety is what they all hate.

Socrates' 2nd objection

- Piety and impiety are not the same thing simply because the Gods don't agree on what is pious and impious. The same things should be hated and loved by the gods.
- piety is not what is pleasing to the gods, and what is pleasing to the gods is not pious because it was agreed that the gods love piety because it is pious, and that it is not pious because they love it.
- piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things. If the gods loved piety because it is pious, they would also have loved what is pleasing to them because it is pleasing to them, including the unpious things.
- This also results to what is pleasing to them had been pleasing to them because they loved it, then piety would have been piety because they love it; determining that they are different things.
- One must be loved because it is loved while the other is loved because it is of a sort to be loved.
- Euthyphro did not answer Socrates' question of "what is piety?"All Euthyphro could answer was the character of piety; the effect which belongs to it and that all the gods love it.

Final definition of piety

Piety and what is pleasing to the gods are different things.

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