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Catcher in the Rye Chapters 14 -26
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Does Holden have any guilty feelings about Allie? Do you feel this is abnormal in any way, or normal?
Holden feels guilty that he didn't let Allie go to the lake with him and his friend. I think this is normal as a part of grief.
What made Holden cry?
Maurice and Sunny come into his room and badger him for five dollars.
What evidence shows us that Holden might have made a good actor?
After this encounter, Holden imagines an elaborate scene in his head where Maurice shot him in the guts and Holden kills him as revenge.
What is the point that Holden tries to make about people when he elaborates about the suitcases of the nuns and of his former roommate?
He thinks it's hard to be friends with people that have less than him and are in lower classes.
How does Holden treat the nuns?
He is very nice and polite, even when he accidentally blows smoke in their faces.
Why does Holden think it spoils a conversation if someone asks what religion he is?
He says "it's no good for a nice conversation" (113). It makes the conversation different and maybe slightly awkward.
Who does Holden make a date with? Why does he call her up if he thinks she's a phony?
He makes a date with Sally Hayes. He calls her because he's lonely and desperate for conversation.
How does Holden treat little kids? Give an example.
He treats children well and is very polite to them. He is very nice to the little girl at the ice staking rink and helps her tie her shoes.
Does Holden know his way around the city? What does this tell us about him?
Yes he does. It shows he's very well adapted to the city and he wanders around a lot.
How do Holden's feelings for women compare to his feelings for men? (123)
He's more patient with women.
How does Holden feel about actors? The Lunts? (124)
He thinks they're phony.
What is Holden's point about the difference between men owning a car and men owning a horse? (131)
He thinks that men who own cars are greedy and they're never happy until they get a new car. Holden thinks cars are just bought to be shown off.
How does Holden describe a boy's school when talking to Sally? (131)
He thinks it's boring and completely phony.
Why does Holden want to take off with Sally now instead of after college? What is the difference in his eyes? (133)
He doesn't want her to change and doesn't want to have to deal with the responsibilities and phonies of college; he doesn't want to grow up.
What is Holden's opinion of the Christmas show at Radio City? (137)
He doesn't like it; he thinks it's superficial and phony.
Why did Holden think the woman who cried through the movie was a phony? (140)
It doesn't matter what is on the screen, she would probably cry anyway. Holden finds this ironic and frustrating that she's ignoring her son who's in actual pain.
Why did Holden get mad at Luce for calling his (Luce's) old girlfriend the "Whole of New Hampshire"?
Holden said it wasn't nice, and if she was decent enough to let him have sex with her he shouldn't talk about her that way. Again, he is sticking up for women and making sure they're well respected.
Who was Luce to Holden?
Luce was Holden's classmate and student advisor from the Whooton School.
What does Holden pretend happens to him at the Wicker Bar? (p. 150)
He pretends again that he had a bullet wound in his guts and is bleeding everywhere.
What happens to Phoebe's record? How does he feel at this point?
Holden drops it and it shatters. He felt very terrible and depressed, and cries.
Where does Holden go after he leaves the bar? (p. 154)
What information does Holden finally tell us about Allie's funeral?
It was in Central Park, but Holden wasn't there because he was at the hospital.
What does Holden say about Allie that contradicts all his other statements about being an atheist?
He says that Allie's soul is in heaven.
What does Holden find so intriguing about Phoebe's notebook?
He likes all of the little questions and notes she writes. He also liked how she changed her middle name to Weatherfield when it's really Josephine.
What is the one critique Holden has about Phoebe?
He doesn't like how she handled the situation with Curtis Weintraub (the boy who was pestering her)
Why does Phoebe become so upset?
She finds out Holden was kicked out.
Why did it depress Holden when an "old guy" told him that his days at Pencey were the happiest days of his life?
Holden was depressed during his time at Pencey, so if those were really the best days of his life, things are only going to get worse.
What does it tell us about Holden when Phoebe states, "You don't like anything that's happening"?
Even she sees that Holden is depressed and won't change.
Why does Holden think about James Castle when Phoebe asks him to name one thing that he likes a lot?
He admires James Castle for sticking up for what he believed in.
What does it tell us about Holden when he says, "Just because somebody's dead, you don't just stop liking them, for God's sake---especially if they were a thousand times nicer than the people you know that're alive and all"?
It tells us that Holden is very much still grieving for Allie, and Allie was one of the only people he liked.
What does Holden tell Phoebe he'd like to be?
He'd like to be a catcher in the rye: saving kids from falling of a cliff into adulthood.
Who is Mr. Antolini?
He is Holden's old teacher from the Whooton School.
How does Phoebe cover for Holden when their parents come home?
She pretends she was the one smoking a cigarette.
In talking with her parents (top 178) how does Phoebe "sound" like Holden?
She uses similar dialogue (lousy) and talks with disgust.
What does Phoebe do that makes Holden cry?
She gave him all her Christmas money.
What does Holden give to Phoebe?
His red hunting hat.
Why did Holden fail his speech class?
He liked when people digressed (he did it), and the point of the class was to not digress.
How does Holden feel physically while he talks to Mr. Antolini?
Hungover- he is very tired, has a headache and has trouble concentrating.
What does Holden say about him hating people, such as Ackley and Stradlater? (187)
He hates them for a little while or once in a while, but it doesn't last long. He sort of missed them if they weren't around for a while.
What does Antolini's quote mean: "The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one" (188).
Mature men recognize the value and meaning of life and therefore want to live for a cause, while immature men are willing to throw their life away (subjective) for a cause. It's better to live for something than to die for it.
How does Antolini upset and scare Holden? Can you relate this to Holden's previous digression about "flits"?
Holden wakes up to Mr. Antolini petting his head. This is very weird but I don't know if it is "flitty" considering their age gap and the fact that Mr. Antolini is married.
Later, after he has had time to think about it, what does Holden think about Antolini?
He realizes his judgement was a little off and regrets leaving. He kept second guessing himself and felt depressed.
Why does the article on hormones upset Holden?
He looked exactly like the guy with lousy hormones
What strange feeling does Holden start to have when he steps off of curbs?
He feels like when he steps of the curb, he'll just keep going down and down and then disappear.
Why does he keep repeating, "Allie, don't let me disappear"?
He feels that Allie is like his guardian angel almost and he can protect him from this disappearing feeling.
What does Holden decide he must do next? Where does he first go?
He decided he must run away and never go to school again or anything. He first goes to see Phoebe to say goodbye and give her back her Christmas money.
With all the bad language that Holden uses, why was he so upset that curse words were written on a school wall?
He loves children and thinks that these words will strip away their innocence.
How does Holden treat the two small boys in the museum?
He is very kind and even directs them to where they want to go.
Why is it so important to Holden that Phoebe not be mad at him? Relate this to his past, and Allie.
If Phoebe is mad at him and she suddenly dies, then he will feel extremely guilty the same way he does with Allie's death.
What does Holden mean when he states, "The thing with kids is, if they want to grab for the gold ring, you have to let them do it, and not say anything. If they fall off, they fall off, but it's bad if you say anything to them"?
He finally realizes that children have to grow up. If they get hurt in the process, then that is just part of it.
Is the carrousel symbolic? If yes, in what way?
It symbolizes the circle of life.
What do we finally find out about where Holden is while he is telling the story?
He is at a mental hospital in California.
Why shouldn't we ever "tell anybody anything?"
Getting close to people can only hurt you- people will leave or disappoint you
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